Blaze wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 11:53 am
exile wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 11:16 am
Does that matter?
Is heritage something to be proud of and to be preserved?
I wonder how the ethnicity of Germans was tested - and with mass migrations of germanic tribes in the past, just how accurate is it ?
I often wonder about the ethnicity of the French population. Many of their surnames seem to come from eastern Europe. I've now come across 2 French people who were found to be over 60% English in a DNA test (DNA testing is not 100% conclusive) and neither knows of any English relative, past or present. Wars, where families travelled with the armies, will have moved people around, soldier brought back girlfriends, wives etc ... then way back there was the 100 years war and 30 years war ....
In short, movement of populations has always happened so I can't imagine it"'s easy to find a "pure race" or ethnicity.
I fully take the point you are making - as does @Bayleaf. We are indeed all mongrels.
However until just a few years before the concern about German heritage was raised it was rather easy - up to a point. To claim German nationality you had to prove that at least one grandparent had German or Austrian nationality - not dissimilar to claiming Irish nationality today. I take it that these were the ethnic Germans although I don't know how far back those rules for nationality went.
It was only when the state was having to deal with the third generation of original Gastarbeiter that the rules were relaxed. Some I think were in danger of becoming stateless.
As for Eastern European sounding surnames in France, yes, from around 1850 onwards* France and Paris in particular was an attractive destination for those from Eastern Europe and Russia as individuals escaped from war, persecution and discrimination.
* possibly earlier since in a sense, Napoleon opened the door even slightly to French culture fifty odd years earlier.
It is perhaps surprising that borders were much more open then than now. Researching a very different project, I was surprised to find that those entering the UK were only formally recorded following the 1905 immigration act and that passports did not arrive for all travellers to/from the UK until 1915.