Plane crash in Russia - Prygozhin on passenger list

[niemeyjt]

Not quite, this time, but . . .

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[Bayleaf]

Yes, I seem to recall a couple of Russian Drs who mysteriously fell out of high up hospital windows at the beginning of the Covid pandemic. That's certainly a permanent way of silencing them .....

Oh, and Russia reports that Prygozhin was on the crashed plane - so it must be true.

[niemeyjt]

From https://t.me/SolovievLive

This is what Solovyov's official channel said. He is one of Putin's main propagandists and never says anything that is not initially approved by someone in Russia's top leadership.

"Today, the French paddling pools committed an insidious and terrible act. They killed the great sons of our homeland Russia. All those who flew on an airplane deserve eternal memory. But separately, of course, everyone is talking about Evgeny Viktorovich Prigozhin. Twice hero of Russia. Hero of the DPR and LPR. The founder of PMC Wagner, who glorified our country not only during a special military operation, heroically participating in the capture of Bakhmut, Severodonetsk, Lisichansk and other settlements, but also glorified our country in Africa and Syria, it is clear to everyone who benefited from his death. It was not beneficial to our country, obviously, it was not even beneficial to Ukraine, since recently the Wagner PMC troops left Ukraine and were stationed in Belarus, participating in operations in Africa, but this death was very beneficial to the French side. His death will not remain unanswered. To be a hero is to live forever."

[Hotrodder]

What on earth has this got to do with French paddling pools? or it it a quirk of automated translation software?

These days I suspect there is distorted or fake news everywhere and upon viewing the photo of supposed plane wreckage a big question mark comes up. Given that the plane was carrying 7 passengers and three crew, there's hardly enough wreckage showing to build a 2-seater light aircraft, and the map that shows the claimed altitude at the point when everything went wrong, it was at 28,000feet. Very suspicious.

[niemeyjt]

Quirk of Google translation.

Original:

"Сегодня французские лягушатники совершили коварный и ужасный поступок. Убили великих сыновей нашей родины России. Все те, кто летели на самолёте заслуживают вечной памяти. Но отдельно, конечно же, все говорят о Евгении Викторовиче Пригожине. Дважды герой России. Герой ДНР и ЛНР. Основатель ЧВК Вагнер, который прославлял нашу страну не только во время специальной военной операции, героически участвовав в захвате Бахмута, Северодонецка, Лисичанска и других населенных пунктах, но и прославлял нашу страну в Африке и Сирии. Всем совершенно очевидно, кому была выгодна его смерть. Она не была выгодна нашей стране, очевидно, она даже не была выгодна Украине, так как в последнее время войска ЧВК Вагнер отбыли из Украины и размещались в Беларуси, участвуя в операциях в Африке, но эта смерть была очень выгодна французской стороне. Его смерть не останется неотвеченной. Быть героем - жить вечно."

From DeepL:

"Today the French frogmen have committed a treacherous and terrible deed. They killed great sons of our motherland Russia. All those who flew on the plane deserve eternal memory. But separately, of course, all speak about Evgeny Viktorovich Prigozhin. Twice a hero of Russia. Hero of the DNR and LNR. The founder of PMC Wagner, who glorified our country not only during the special military operation, heroically participating in the capture of Bakhmut, Severodonetsk, Lysychansk and other settlements, but also glorified our country in Africa and Syria. It is quite obvious to everyone who benefited from his death. It was not favourable to our country, obviously, it was not even favourable to Ukraine, as recently the troops of PMC Wagner departed from Ukraine and were stationed in Belarus, participating in operations in Africa, but this death was very favourable to the French side. His death will not go unanswered. To be a hero is to live forever."

[Blaze]

The problem with Wagner is it doesn't care who it fights, that's all its members live for. Mercenaries have no loyalty to anyone but themselves and can never be trusted. Wagner are unlikely to let this pass without taking revenge. It appears that the other Wagner founder, Dimitri Utkin, was also on the passenger list.

[niemeyjt]

It is good news if they head east to Moscow. I feared they would do something daft to the Suwalky Gap.

[Lori]

It appears that the other Wagner founder, Dimitri Utkin, was also on the passenger list.

If true, that seems incredibly stupid to travel on the same plane together.

[Blaze]

It appears that the other Wagner founder, Dimitri Utkin, was also on the passenger list.

If true, that seems incredibly stupid to travel on the same plane together.

It's incomprehensible that they could really have believed they would survive their rebellion and live to tell the tale. Putain is known for eliminating all opposition and he would never forgive Wagner for denting his pride. Prigozhyn must have known the writing was on the wall ... it was only a matter of time and opportunity.

However, it's yet to be confirmed or certain if either or both were on that plane.

[exile]

What on earth has this got to do with French paddling pools? or it it a quirk of automated translation software?

These days I suspect there is distorted or fake news everywhere and upon viewing the photo of supposed plane wreckage a big question mark comes up. Given that the plane was carrying 7 passengers and three crew, there's hardly enough wreckage showing to build a 2-seater light aircraft, and the map that shows the claimed altitude at the point when everything went wrong, it was at 28,000feet. Very suspicious.

The video of the crash shows the plane diving vertically to the ground. I suspect that much of the wreckage will be several metres underground.