Sex offences and jumping through hoops

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#21 Post by MAD87 »

hughnique wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 2:26 pm There seems to be a reluctance for women to step up and do the right thing,
That'sn a big ask for any woman who's a victim of a sex offence! Police scepticism, giving evidence if a case actally comes to court, fear of reprisals if the perp is convicted, etc. I've seen it all in practice in the past, but I applaud the courage of those who do come forward - it's just that,courage.
This week, I think, will see the sentencing of Dominique Pelicot for organising the multiple rapes of his wife by 50+ men, invited via internet to rape her while she was drugged. Amazing woman - she waived her right to anonimity.
I hope he ((and his guests get at least 30 years).

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MAD87 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:59 am
hughnique wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 2:26 pm There seems to be a reluctance for women to step up and do the right thing,
That'sn a big ask for any woman who's a victim of a sex offence! Police scepticism, giving evidence if a case actally comes to court, fear of reprisals if the perp is convicted, etc. I've seen it all in practice in the past, but I applaud the courage of those who do come forward - it's just that,courage.
The same reason battered women don't press charges although it's generally because they fear but also "love" their battering partner. Going to court can be a difficult experience for many.
MAD87 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:59 amThis week, I think, will see the sentencing of Dominique Pelicot for organising the multiple rapes of his wife by 50+ men, invited via internet to rape her while she was drugged. Amazing woman - she waived her right to anonimity.
I hope he ((and his guests get at least 30 years).
A horrific story and prison for the rest of his life is the only place for him (it's unlikely he'll live anywhere near as long as 30 years ....)

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#23 Post by Hotrodder »

In addition to any prison sentences handed down, compulsory castration would be a useful deterrant against further offences should rapists be let out early.
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Hotrodder wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 11:31 am compulsory castration would be a useful deterrant
Not necessarily, the sex drive can still remain. If they can't achieve what they want, frustration could make them turn to other violence.

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#25 Post by Pathca »

Plus 1 Blaze the majority of rapists it isn’t about sex so much as power and they will find another way

The number of times a DV victim assures officers that this is it and she means it and she will leave/ go to court etc and then withdraws her statement because he loves me / I love him is frustrating
There’s a high profile case in the UK at the moment of a young woman found dead in a car boot,who had a DV protection notice that had recently expired

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Blaze wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 11:38 am
Hotrodder wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 11:31 am compulsory castration would be a useful deterrant
Not necessarily, the sex drive can still remain. If they can't achieve what they want, frustration could make them turn to other violence.
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#27 Post by exile »

Why don't DV victims just leave? It seems so simple.

But leave to where?
You lose the roof over your head. You will need to find somewhere to live and how to finance that becomes an issue. In the event of eventual divorce, this can lead to a loss of rights over the marital assets.
You probably have to give up your job and then probably try to find another at least equivalent.
Any kids will need to change schools - never straightforward but can become very complex when national exams approach.
Loose all your friends and support groups and then start again.
Pets??

I can see why people stay put.
And if did go to court and they just smack the offender's legs, you still have to live with them.

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#28 Post by Pathca »

There’s a bit more support for victims of DV available these days and also a victim would not be expected to live with their abuser if found not guilty if they didn’t wish to

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+1 Exile
Children can be a huge issue in not leaving. Women are afraid they will lose their children unless they can get away with them. I've seen instances of this and it's heartbreaking to see the children used as a weapon. It's the same in France.
Women will put up with almost anything to keep her children.

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#30 Post by MAD87 »

@hughnique In my experience, very few policemen/women are bent or corrupt. There has however, been an atmosphere of mysogeny when women complain of violence / sexual assault, both among policemen and generally. I used to counter that by asking the men who make derogatory comments how they'd feel if they were buggered without consent - that usually glued their traps shut.
As for DV, I well remember a case when I was in the CPS when the woman had ended up in hospital for the umpteenth time (broken bones and internal injuries) and bets were being taken in thye office as to how soon she'd go back to her abuser. In those days there simply weren't enough women's shelters and continuing reluctance by women to use them.

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